| To: "neil harden" Subject: RE: Pigeon Muck on Hemel Market |
Hello Neil ,
Thanks for your email with email copy from Peter ,
I don't think Peter's reply is particularly helpful ,
I am aware that the Market structure has a limited life due to the redevelopment plans , but I would have thought these would be "on hold " at the moment in the present economic climate , as the need for more shops ( 160,000 sq feet ) and flats and houses must have gone down in priority . I guess that the shopping area would have funded a large part of the other developments ,
I have been told by one of the shops adjacent to the market that their lease has been renewed , which I guess mean that the shops are going to be there for another three years at least and so presumably the Market Structure the same period of time .
Peter states " We installed pigeon proofing to the under side of the roof structure but in some areas this has been removed by the vandals " Yes pigeon proofing in places , but why hasn't it been put back ? Also none of the lights and much of the structure has never been pigeon proofed .
Peter states "The birds apparently sit on the fixed table tops quite regularly and for six days they have the place to themselves " , yes they have the place to themselves for 6 days , why ? Because the council and its executive have got into a mind set that as the area is to be redeveloped nothing needs to be done , I suspect if the council had its way the structure would go and there would be an empty space until redevelopment vis a vis The Pavilion a grassy knoll 2002 to 2008 until when 2020 ?!!
Peter states , " I am not sure what the long term answer is " shouldn't you employ people who do know ? It's not brain surgery an obvious solution suggests itself to anyone who visits the site and although this would involve a moderate Capital Outlay it would be beneficial to the local community for the 3 years or more ( 10 years ) that this structure continues in existence and would also generate revenue for the council over the same period .
I look forward to seeing the tables cleaned and some of the pigeon proofing being reinstated but I am not holding my breath !
Regards
Mike
At 22:33 01/09/2008, you wrote:
Thanks for your email with email copy from Peter ,
I don't think Peter's reply is particularly helpful ,
I am aware that the Market structure has a limited life due to the redevelopment plans , but I would have thought these would be "on hold " at the moment in the present economic climate , as the need for more shops ( 160,000 sq feet ) and flats and houses must have gone down in priority . I guess that the shopping area would have funded a large part of the other developments ,
I have been told by one of the shops adjacent to the market that their lease has been renewed , which I guess mean that the shops are going to be there for another three years at least and so presumably the Market Structure the same period of time .
Peter states " We installed pigeon proofing to the under side of the roof structure but in some areas this has been removed by the vandals " Yes pigeon proofing in places , but why hasn't it been put back ? Also none of the lights and much of the structure has never been pigeon proofed .
Peter states "The birds apparently sit on the fixed table tops quite regularly and for six days they have the place to themselves " , yes they have the place to themselves for 6 days , why ? Because the council and its executive have got into a mind set that as the area is to be redeveloped nothing needs to be done , I suspect if the council had its way the structure would go and there would be an empty space until redevelopment vis a vis The Pavilion a grassy knoll 2002 to 2008 until when 2020 ?!!
Peter states , " I am not sure what the long term answer is " shouldn't you employ people who do know ? It's not brain surgery an obvious solution suggests itself to anyone who visits the site and although this would involve a moderate Capital Outlay it would be beneficial to the local community for the 3 years or more ( 10 years ) that this structure continues in existence and would also generate revenue for the council over the same period .
I look forward to seeing the tables cleaned and some of the pigeon proofing being reinstated but I am not holding my breath !
Regards
Mike
At 22:33 01/09/2008, you wrote:
Dear Neil,
We installed pigeon proofing to the under side of the roof structure but in some areas this has been removed by the vandals who seem to congregate around the market at nights. The numerous take away establishments near by don't help the situation , as there always seems a ready supply of food thrown around which apart from the birds also attracts rats.
The birds apparently sit on the fixed table tops quite regularly and for six days they have the place to themselves as you are aware the general market has been relocated. We have a few years back introduced some dummy owls to the roof which worked quite well but the pigeons have recently come back with a vengeance.
I am not sure what the long term answer is but I will arrange for the table tops to be washed down and the pigeon proofing to be replaced where missing.
Regards Peter
Dear Michael,
I hope this information is beneficial for you.
Regards,
Councillor Neil Harden
Representative for Boxmoor ward
Dacorum Borough Council
From: Mi [mailto:jmw.bedford@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 28 August 2008 07:23
To: neil.harden@dacorum.gov.uk
Subject: Pigeon Muck on Hemel Market
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